[Dysphagia] Sharing Information with Colleagues

[ppalmer at medonline.com (Phyllis M. Palmer)]

Thank you Suzanne for your kind and thoguhtful comments.

In hopes that we can continue to focus on sharing and learning 
information...

Respectfully,
Phyllis

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Phyllis M. Palmer, Ph.D.       Speech Language Pathologist
University Of New Mexico

                   www.dysphagia.com
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On Wed, 18 May 2005, Suzanne Morris wrote:

> One of the things I've learned, over time, in my teaching and exchanges with 
> other therapists is that a given group consists of people with many different 
> backgrounds.  On a listserv people join a group, gain what they need and 
> leave.  And new people join.  A workshop consists of therapists who have very 
> little feeding/dysphagia experience, therapists who have had extensive 
> experience with approaches that I question, and therapists who are 
> experienced and on the same wave length I am.  I know that simply by 
> participating on a list or in a workshop, each participant is open to 
> learning and growing in their own way.
>
> Until there is a consistency in teaching at universities and in continuing 
> education, all of the research-based information that would influence our 
> therapy isn't going to be reflected in the therapy and questions of every 
> therapist.   After years of frustration, I've arrived at a wonderful sense of 
> peace that this is just reality.  It isn't just the situation in our field, 
> but in every field of human endeavor.   Being at peace with the "IS" doesn't 
> mean that I am not a strong advocate for what I would like for people to 
> know.  It doesn't mean that I don't become frustrated at times.  I just 
> recognize that questions that I've heard before are either from new 
> participants on a list or in a course, or are from people who are now ready 
> to process the information that they may have heard at a time when they 
> weren't ready to process it.   If information is important, it bears 
> repeating.  I also, however, feel that it is really important for lists or 
> specific members of lists to write information or position papers that can be 
> posted on a website.  I've done this in the "Feed Your Mind" section of my 
> New Visions website (www.new-vis.com)  for many of the issues in pediatric 
> dysphagia that I feel are important.
>
> Irene, it would be so wonderful if you would consider adding this type of a 
> section to your own website.  You are such a marvelous resource person who 
> challenges each of us to understand our assessment and treatment choices in 
> light of research evidence.  You will know what papers to write and add from 
> the specific questions you encounter on this list.   Although this takes some 
> time initially, it is a great time and energy saver because you can simply 
> refer people to the URL that addresses the topic area or question that they 
> are asking.   For me this also defuses my own frustration at feeling I need 
> to repeat and repeat the same informational content.  I can then approach the 
> questions as opportunities to share a different perspective with others who 
> are ready to learn more.
>
> Suzanne
>
>
> Suzanne Evans Morris, Ph.D.
> New Visions
> 1124 Roberts Mountain Rd.
> Faber, VA 22938
> (434) 361-2285 ext. 5
> www.new-vis.com
>
>
> On May 18, 2005, at 4:00 PM, Irene Campbell-Taylor wrote:
>
>> 
>> Genefer Behamdouni <BEHAMG@stjoe.on.ca> wrote:
>> You know if you won't stand for people being rude to you, I'm not sure
>> why you feel the need to be so rude to others. The information is
>> interesting, but you won't solve anything by putting people down first.
>> 
>> Grow up.
>> 
>> *** One of the reasons that I frequently stay away from this list - over 
>> the ten years in which I have been a contributor - is responses like this. 
>> My comment was a repeat of what Barbara Sonies said in her talk at ASHA in 
>> Chicago - outdated, incorrect information etc.  Should she "Grow up" as 
>> well? And Michael Crary? Do the published facts mean nothing? And what, 
>> exactly, was rude? I am on record as indicating that every insulting 
>> message I receive on this list - and over the years there have been 
>> hundreds- will be posted to the membership. If one doesn't have the courage 
>> to say something publicly, please keep quiet and know that these 
>> communications have no effect on me whatsoever.
>> 
>>>>> Irene Campbell-Taylor 05/18 9:44 AM >>>
>> Okay, I can't stand it any longer. The wealth of outdated, inaccurate
>> and misperceived information that still seems to be prevalent is
>> frightening. For those of you who feel that you don't have time to read
>> the relevant material and, by implication, feel that you don't need the
>> information, stop here.
>> Tongue retraction. This is still one of my "Where did you ever get that
>> idea? mysteries. Many years ago, David Curtis proved that the "open
>> swallow" is far more common than contact with the PPW. See below.
>> The Masako: If you don't believe me, maybe you'll believe Michael Crary
>> - also below.And, in the original article find the following:
>> 
>> However, the use of the maneuver per se, which inhibits posterior
>> retraction of the base of tongue (BOT), resulted in increasing the
>> pharyngeal (specifically vallecular) residue after the swallow. 
>
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