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[Dysphagia] Sharing Information with Colleagues
Hi, I more than agree. I think it is a fabulous idea. If there is
anything I can do, please let me know. Anita Slapin
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris and Claire Langdon" <chris_claire@bigpond.com>
To: "Phyllis M. Palmer" <ppalmer@medonline.com>; <dysphagia@b9.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 3:32 AM
Subject: Re: [Dysphagia] Sharing Information with Colleagues
> Maybe all of us who benefit from the listserv should send Phyllis $10 a
> year
> ? (- that's less than a dollar per month). I think she said there were
> around 1,000 people currently subscribed.
>
> I know I've had my money's worth! What do others think?
>
> Best regards
>
> Claire
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Phyllis M. Palmer" <ppalmer@medonline.com>
> To: <dysphagia@b9.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 9:56 PM
> Subject: RE: [Dysphagia] Sharing Information with Colleagues
>
>
>> Jai Gupta and other list members,
>>
>> Thanks for your thoughts on the archives. Yes, there are ways to acheive
> this.
>> And it would be great to have a well organized archive that folks can
> refer to
>> easily. THe problem of course is time and money. I am low on both. I will
> put
>> the archive issue on the "to-do" list, but I am not certain that I will
> get to
>> it for a while. If anyone has an idea of a funding source so that I can
> pay (a)
>> someone to do the archive programming, and (b) someone to clean out the
> current
>> archives of all garbage, administrative and spam, I would appreciate
>> those
>> suggestions. Once the programming is written, I need to address the issue
> of
>> archive storage. If anyone would like to donate a storage site, let me
> know.
>>
>> In the meantime we can all help by using brief and clear subject headers.
> For
>> example, job opportunities can be posted as "Job post-Austin, Texas". Or
>> a
> case
>> study can be labeled as "Case Study: 41 year old male s/p glossectomy"
>> If
> you
>> are responding to the post, do not change the subject header. If you are
> using
>> a reply function, but are not responding to that subject, then please
> remember
>> to change the subject header. This allows the automatic archive function
> to
>> sort discussion threads.
>>
>> Thanks again to all the list members for the vibrant and worthwhile
>> discussions.
>>
>> Phyllis
>>
>> __________________________________________________________
>> Phyllis M. Palmer, Ph.D. Speech Language Pathologist
>> University Of New Mexico
>>
>> www.dysphagia.com
>> __________________________________________________________
>>
>> On Fri, 20 May 2005, Jai Gupta wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Hi Phyllis,
>> > To add to this debate and to reduce frustration of repeating ourselves
> over
>> > and over again or reading same argument over and over again I think it
> would
>> > be great if the past and future correspondences be arranged by specific
> topic
>> > or questions? and not by date alone or misleading subject titles......
> this
>> > will make it easy for those who have newly joint to review what was
> already
>> > discussed in the past...... Thus when a question in raised and if it
>> > has
> been
>> > discussed in past there should be an automatic attachment or link of
> previous
>> > discussion in the email or discussion. I am aware it is time consuming
> and am
>> > not sure how we could get around it .... I will give it a thought if my
> brain
>> > can come up with the solution......but I am sure there has to be a way
> how we
>> > can achieve this and am sure amongst us there must be some computer
> genius
>> > who can come with the solution ..any ideas
>> > Jai Gupta.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: dysphagia-bounces@b9.com [mailto:dysphagia-bounces@b9.com]On
>> > Behalf Of Phyllis M. Palmer
>> > Sent: Friday, 20 May 2005 1:23 AM
>> > To: Suzanne Morris
>> > Cc: dysphagia@b9.com
>> > Subject: Re: [Dysphagia] Sharing Information with Colleagues
>> >
>> >
>> > Thank you Suzanne for your kind and thoguhtful comments.
>> >
>> > In hopes that we can continue to focus on sharing and learning
>> > information...
>> >
>> > Respectfully,
>> > Phyllis
>> >
>> > __________________________________________________________
>> > Phyllis M. Palmer, Ph.D. Speech Language Pathologist
>> > University Of New Mexico
>> >
>> > www.dysphagia.com
>> > __________________________________________________________
>> >
>> > On Wed, 18 May 2005, Suzanne Morris wrote:
>> >
>> >> One of the things I've learned, over time, in my teaching and
>> >> exchanges
> with
>> >> other therapists is that a given group consists of people with many
>> >> different
>> >> backgrounds. On a listserv people join a group, gain what they need
> and
>> >> leave. And new people join. A workshop consists of therapists who
> have
>> >> very
>> >> little feeding/dysphagia experience, therapists who have had extensive
>> >> experience with approaches that I question, and therapists who are
>> >> experienced and on the same wave length I am. I know that simply by
>> >> participating on a list or in a workshop, each participant is open to
>> >> learning and growing in their own way.
>> >>
>> >> Until there is a consistency in teaching at universities and in
> continuing
>> >> education, all of the research-based information that would influence
> our
>> >> therapy isn't going to be reflected in the therapy and questions of
> every
>> >> therapist. After years of frustration, I've arrived at a wonderful
> sense
>> >> of
>> >> peace that this is just reality. It isn't just the situation in our
> field,
>> >> but in every field of human endeavor. Being at peace with the "IS"
> doesn't
>> >> mean that I am not a strong advocate for what I would like for people
> to
>> >> know. It doesn't mean that I don't become frustrated at times. I
>> >> just
>> >> recognize that questions that I've heard before are either from new
>> >> participants on a list or in a course, or are from people who are now
> ready
>> >> to process the information that they may have heard at a time when
>> >> they
>> >> weren't ready to process it. If information is important, it bears
>> >> repeating. I also, however, feel that it is really important for
>> >> lists
> or
>> >> specific members of lists to write information or position papers that
> can
>> >> be
>> >> posted on a website. I've done this in the "Feed Your Mind" section
>> >> of
> my
>> >> New Visions website (www.new-vis.com) for many of the issues in
> pediatric
>> >> dysphagia that I feel are important.
>> >>
>> >> Irene, it would be so wonderful if you would consider adding this type
> of a
>> >> section to your own website. You are such a marvelous resource person
> who
>> >> challenges each of us to understand our assessment and treatment
> choices in
>> >> light of research evidence. You will know what papers to write and
>> >> add
> from
>> >> the specific questions you encounter on this list. Although this
> takes
>> >> some
>> >> time initially, it is a great time and energy saver because you can
> simply
>> >> refer people to the URL that addresses the topic area or question that
> they
>> >> are asking. For me this also defuses my own frustration at feeling I
> need
>> >> to repeat and repeat the same informational content. I can then
> approach
>> >> the
>> >> questions as opportunities to share a different perspective with
>> >> others
> who
>> >> are ready to learn more.
>> >>
>> >> Suzanne
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Suzanne Evans Morris, Ph.D.
>> >> New Visions
>> >> 1124 Roberts Mountain Rd.
>> >> Faber, VA 22938
>> >> (434) 361-2285 ext. 5
>> >> www.new-vis.com
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On May 18, 2005, at 4:00 PM, Irene Campbell-Taylor wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> Genefer Behamdouni <BEHAMG@stjoe.on.ca> wrote:
>> >>> You know if you won't stand for people being rude to you, I'm not
>> >>> sure
>> >>> why you feel the need to be so rude to others. The information is
>> >>> interesting, but you won't solve anything by putting people down
> first.
>> >>>
>> >>> Grow up.
>> >>>
>> >>> *** One of the reasons that I frequently stay away from this list -
> over
>> >>> the ten years in which I have been a contributor - is responses like
> this.
>> >>> My comment was a repeat of what Barbara Sonies said in her talk at
> ASHA in
>> >>> Chicago - outdated, incorrect information etc. Should she "Grow up"
> as
>> >>> well? And Michael Crary? Do the published facts mean nothing? And
> what,
>> >>> exactly, was rude? I am on record as indicating that every insulting
>> >>> message I receive on this list - and over the years there have been
>> >>> hundreds- will be posted to the membership. If one doesn't have the
> courage
>> >>> to say something publicly, please keep quiet and know that these
>> >>> communications have no effect on me whatsoever.
>> >>>
>> >>>>>> Irene Campbell-Taylor 05/18 9:44 AM >>>
>> >>> Okay, I can't stand it any longer. The wealth of outdated, inaccurate
>> >>> and misperceived information that still seems to be prevalent is
>> >>> frightening. For those of you who feel that you don't have time to
> read
>> >>> the relevant material and, by implication, feel that you don't need
> the
>> >>> information, stop here.
>> >>> Tongue retraction. This is still one of my "Where did you ever get
> that
>> >>> idea? mysteries. Many years ago, David Curtis proved that the "open
>> >>> swallow" is far more common than contact with the PPW. See below.
>> >>> The Masako: If you don't believe me, maybe you'll believe Michael
> Crary
>> >>> - also below.And, in the original article find the following:
>> >>>
>> >>> However, the use of the maneuver per se, which inhibits posterior
>> >>> retraction of the base of tongue (BOT), resulted in increasing the
>> >>> pharyngeal (specifically vallecular) residue after the swallow.
>> >>
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