[Dysphagia] Sharing Information with Colleagues

[malindam at samhealth.org (malindam@samhealth.org)]

Ditto

Malinda Moore

-----Original Message-----
From: dysphagia-bounces@b9.com [mailto:dysphagia-bounces@b9.com]On
Behalf Of Hummelbrunner, Jackie
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 6:03 AM
To: 'Chris and Claire Langdon'; Phyllis M. Palmer; dysphagia@b9.com
Subject: RE: [Dysphagia] Sharing Information with Colleagues 


I agree and would pay for this.

Jackie Hummelbrunner

-----Original Message-----
From: dysphagia-bounces@b9.com [mailto:dysphagia-bounces@b9.com] On Behalf
Of Chris and Claire Langdon
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 1:33 AM
To: Phyllis M. Palmer; dysphagia@b9.com
Subject: Re: [Dysphagia] Sharing Information with Colleagues 

Maybe all of us who benefit from the listserv should send Phyllis $10 a year
? (- that's less than a dollar per month).  I think she said there were
around 1,000 people currently subscribed.

I know I've had my money's worth!  What do others think?

Best regards

Claire
----- Original Message -----
From: "Phyllis M. Palmer" <ppalmer@medonline.com>
To: <dysphagia@b9.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 9:56 PM
Subject: RE: [Dysphagia] Sharing Information with Colleagues


> Jai Gupta and other list members,
>
> Thanks for your thoughts on the archives. Yes, there are ways to acheive
this.
> And it would be great to have a well organized archive that folks can
refer to
> easily. THe problem of course is time and money. I am low on both. I will
put
> the archive issue on the "to-do" list, but I am not certain that I will
get to
> it for a while. If anyone has an idea of a funding source so that I can
pay (a)
> someone to do the archive programming, and (b) someone to clean out the
current
> archives of all garbage, administrative and spam, I would appreciate those
> suggestions. Once the programming is written, I need to address the issue
of
> archive storage. If anyone would like to donate a storage site, let me
know.
>
> In the meantime we can all help by using brief and clear subject headers.
For
> example, job opportunities can be posted as "Job post-Austin, Texas". Or a
case
> study can be labeled as "Case Study: 41 year old male s/p glossectomy"  If
you
> are responding to the post, do not change the subject header. If you are
using
> a reply function, but are not responding to that subject, then please
remember
> to change the subject header. This allows the automatic archive function
to
> sort discussion threads.
>
> Thanks again to all the list members for the vibrant and worthwhile
> discussions.
>
> Phyllis
>
> __________________________________________________________
> Phyllis M. Palmer, Ph.D.       Speech Language Pathologist
> University Of New Mexico
>
>                    www.dysphagia.com
> __________________________________________________________
>
> On Fri, 20 May 2005, Jai Gupta wrote:
>
> >
> > Hi Phyllis,
> > To add to this debate and to reduce frustration of repeating ourselves
over
> > and over again or reading same argument over and over again I think it
would
> > be great if the past and future correspondences be arranged by specific
topic
> > or questions? and not by date alone or misleading subject titles......
this
> > will make it easy for those who have newly joint to review what was
already
> > discussed in the past...... Thus when a question in raised and if it has
been
> > discussed in past there should be an automatic attachment or link of
previous
> > discussion in the email or discussion. I am aware it is time consuming
and am
> > not sure how we could get around it .... I will give it a thought if my
brain
> > can come up with the solution......but I am sure there has to be a way
how we
> > can achieve this and am sure amongst us there must be some computer
genius
> > who can come with the solution ..any ideas
> > Jai Gupta.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dysphagia-bounces@b9.com [mailto:dysphagia-bounces@b9.com]On
> > Behalf Of Phyllis M. Palmer
> > Sent: Friday, 20 May 2005 1:23 AM
> > To: Suzanne Morris
> > Cc: dysphagia@b9.com
> > Subject: Re: [Dysphagia] Sharing Information with Colleagues
> >
> >
> > Thank you Suzanne for your kind and thoguhtful comments.
> >
> > In hopes that we can continue to focus on sharing and learning
> > information...
> >
> > Respectfully,
> > Phyllis
> >
> > __________________________________________________________
> > Phyllis M. Palmer, Ph.D.       Speech Language Pathologist
> > University Of New Mexico
> >
> >                   www.dysphagia.com
> > __________________________________________________________
> >
> > On Wed, 18 May 2005, Suzanne Morris wrote:
> >
> >> One of the things I've learned, over time, in my teaching and exchanges
with
> >> other therapists is that a given group consists of people with many
> >> different
> >> backgrounds.  On a listserv people join a group, gain what they need
and
> >> leave.  And new people join.  A workshop consists of therapists who
have
> >> very
> >> little feeding/dysphagia experience, therapists who have had extensive
> >> experience with approaches that I question, and therapists who are
> >> experienced and on the same wave length I am.  I know that simply by
> >> participating on a list or in a workshop, each participant is open to
> >> learning and growing in their own way.
> >>
> >> Until there is a consistency in teaching at universities and in
continuing
> >> education, all of the research-based information that would influence
our
> >> therapy isn't going to be reflected in the therapy and questions of
every
> >> therapist.   After years of frustration, I've arrived at a wonderful
sense
> >> of
> >> peace that this is just reality.  It isn't just the situation in our
field,
> >> but in every field of human endeavor.   Being at peace with the "IS"
doesn't
> >> mean that I am not a strong advocate for what I would like for people
to
> >> know.  It doesn't mean that I don't become frustrated at times.  I just
> >> recognize that questions that I've heard before are either from new
> >> participants on a list or in a course, or are from people who are now
ready
> >> to process the information that they may have heard at a time when they
> >> weren't ready to process it.   If information is important, it bears
> >> repeating.  I also, however, feel that it is really important for lists
or
> >> specific members of lists to write information or position papers that
can
> >> be
> >> posted on a website.  I've done this in the "Feed Your Mind" section of
my
> >> New Visions website (www.new-vis.com)  for many of the issues in
pediatric
> >> dysphagia that I feel are important.
> >>
> >> Irene, it would be so wonderful if you would consider adding this type
of a
> >> section to your own website.  You are such a marvelous resource person
who
> >> challenges each of us to understand our assessment and treatment
choices in
> >> light of research evidence.  You will know what papers to write and add
from
> >> the specific questions you encounter on this list.   Although this
takes
> >> some
> >> time initially, it is a great time and energy saver because you can
simply
> >> refer people to the URL that addresses the topic area or question that
they
> >> are asking.   For me this also defuses my own frustration at feeling I
need
> >> to repeat and repeat the same informational content.  I can then
approach
> >> the
> >> questions as opportunities to share a different perspective with others
who
> >> are ready to learn more.
> >>
> >> Suzanne
> >>
> >>
> >> Suzanne Evans Morris, Ph.D.
> >> New Visions
> >> 1124 Roberts Mountain Rd.
> >> Faber, VA 22938
> >> (434) 361-2285 ext. 5
> >> www.new-vis.com
> >>
> >>
> >> On May 18, 2005, at 4:00 PM, Irene Campbell-Taylor wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Genefer Behamdouni <BEHAMG@stjoe.on.ca> wrote:
> >>> You know if you won't stand for people being rude to you, I'm not sure
> >>> why you feel the need to be so rude to others. The information is
> >>> interesting, but you won't solve anything by putting people down
first.
> >>>
> >>> Grow up.
> >>>
> >>> *** One of the reasons that I frequently stay away from this list -
over
> >>> the ten years in which I have been a contributor - is responses like
this.
> >>> My comment was a repeat of what Barbara Sonies said in her talk at
ASHA in
> >>> Chicago - outdated, incorrect information etc.  Should she "Grow up"
as
> >>> well? And Michael Crary? Do the published facts mean nothing? And
what,
> >>> exactly, was rude? I am on record as indicating that every insulting
> >>> message I receive on this list - and over the years there have been
> >>> hundreds- will be posted to the membership. If one doesn't have the
courage
> >>> to say something publicly, please keep quiet and know that these
> >>> communications have no effect on me whatsoever.
> >>>
> >>>>>> Irene Campbell-Taylor 05/18 9:44 AM >>>
> >>> Okay, I can't stand it any longer. The wealth of outdated, inaccurate
> >>> and misperceived information that still seems to be prevalent is
> >>> frightening. For those of you who feel that you don't have time to
read
> >>> the relevant material and, by implication, feel that you don't need
the
> >>> information, stop here.
> >>> Tongue retraction. This is still one of my "Where did you ever get
that
> >>> idea? mysteries. Many years ago, David Curtis proved that the "open
> >>> swallow" is far more common than contact with the PPW. See below.
> >>> The Masako: If you don't believe me, maybe you'll believe Michael
Crary
> >>> - also below.And, in the original article find the following:
> >>>
> >>> However, the use of the maneuver per se, which inhibits posterior
> >>> retraction of the base of tongue (BOT), resulted in increasing the
> >>> pharyngeal (specifically vallecular) residue after the swallow.
> >>
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