[Dysphagia] Sharing Information with Colleagues

[Paula.Leslie at newcastle.ac.uk (Paula leslie)]

Me too! (Do you take ?s?)

Paula


>-----Original Message-----
>From: dysphagia-bounces@b9.com [mailto:dysphagia-bounces@b9.com] On Behalf
>Of Chris and Claire Langdon
>Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 1:33 AM
>To: Phyllis M. Palmer; dysphagia@b9.com
>Subject: Re: [Dysphagia] Sharing Information with Colleagues
>
>Maybe all of us who benefit from the listserv should send Phyllis $10 a year
>? (- that's less than a dollar per month).  I think she said there were
>around 1,000 people currently subscribed.
>
>I know I've had my money's worth!  What do others think?
>
>Best regards
>
>Claire
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Phyllis M. Palmer" <ppalmer@medonline.com>
>To: <dysphagia@b9.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 9:56 PM
>Subject: RE: [Dysphagia] Sharing Information with Colleagues
>
>
>> Jai Gupta and other list members,
>>
>> Thanks for your thoughts on the archives. Yes, there are ways to acheive
>this.
>> And it would be great to have a well organized archive that folks can
>refer to
>> easily. THe problem of course is time and money. I am low on both. I will
>put
>> the archive issue on the "to-do" list, but I am not certain that I will
>get to
>> it for a while. If anyone has an idea of a funding source so that I can
>pay (a)
>> someone to do the archive programming, and (b) someone to clean out the
>current
>> archives of all garbage, administrative and spam, I would appreciate those
>> suggestions. Once the programming is written, I need to address the issue
>of
>> archive storage. If anyone would like to donate a storage site, let me
>know.
>>
>> In the meantime we can all help by using brief and clear subject headers.
>For
>> example, job opportunities can be posted as "Job post-Austin, Texas". Or a
>case
>> study can be labeled as "Case Study: 41 year old male s/p glossectomy"  If
>you
>> are responding to the post, do not change the subject header. If you are
>using
>> a reply function, but are not responding to that subject, then please
>remember
>> to change the subject header. This allows the automatic archive function
>to
>> sort discussion threads.
>>
>> Thanks again to all the list members for the vibrant and worthwhile
>> discussions.
>>
>> Phyllis
>>
>> __________________________________________________________
>> Phyllis M. Palmer, Ph.D.       Speech Language Pathologist
>> University Of New Mexico
>>
>>                    www.dysphagia.com
>> __________________________________________________________
>>
>> On Fri, 20 May 2005, Jai Gupta wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Hi Phyllis,
>> > To add to this debate and to reduce frustration of repeating ourselves
>over
>> > and over again or reading same argument over and over again I think it
>would
>> > be great if the past and future correspondences be arranged by specific
>topic
>> > or questions? and not by date alone or misleading subject titles......
>this
>> > will make it easy for those who have newly joint to review what was
>already
>> > discussed in the past...... Thus when a question in raised and if it has
>been
>> > discussed in past there should be an automatic attachment or link of
>previous
>> > discussion in the email or discussion. I am aware it is time consuming
>and am
>> > not sure how we could get around it .... I will give it a thought if my
>brain
>> > can come up with the solution......but I am sure there has to be a way
>how we
>> > can achieve this and am sure amongst us there must be some computer
>genius
>> > who can come with the solution ..any ideas
>> > Jai Gupta.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: dysphagia-bounces@b9.com [mailto:dysphagia-bounces@b9.com]On
>> > Behalf Of Phyllis M. Palmer
>> > Sent: Friday, 20 May 2005 1:23 AM
>> > To: Suzanne Morris
>> > Cc: dysphagia@b9.com
>> > Subject: Re: [Dysphagia] Sharing Information with Colleagues
>> >
>> >
>> > Thank you Suzanne for your kind and thoguhtful comments.
>> >
>> > In hopes that we can continue to focus on sharing and learning
>> > information...
>> >
>> > Respectfully,
>> > Phyllis
>> >
>> > __________________________________________________________
>> > Phyllis M. Palmer, Ph.D.       Speech Language Pathologist
>> > University Of New Mexico
>> >
>> >                   www.dysphagia.com
>> > __________________________________________________________
>> >
>> > On Wed, 18 May 2005, Suzanne Morris wrote:
>> >
>> >> One of the things I've learned, over time, in my teaching and exchanges
>with
>> >> other therapists is that a given group consists of people with many
>> >> different
>> >> backgrounds.  On a listserv people join a group, gain what they need
>and
>> >> leave.  And new people join.  A workshop consists of therapists who
>have
>> >> very
>> >> little feeding/dysphagia experience, therapists who have had extensive
>> >> experience with approaches that I question, and therapists who are
>> >> experienced and on the same wave length I am.  I know that simply by
>> >> participating on a list or in a workshop, each participant is open to
>> >> learning and growing in their own way.
>> >>
>> >> Until there is a consistency in teaching at universities and in
>continuing
>> >> education, all of the research-based information that would influence
>our
>> >> therapy isn't going to be reflected in the therapy and questions of
>every
>> >> therapist.   After years of frustration, I've arrived at a wonderful
>sense
>> >> of
>> >> peace that this is just reality.  It isn't just the situation in our
>field,
>> >> but in every field of human endeavor.   Being at peace with the "IS"
>doesn't
>> >> mean that I am not a strong advocate for what I would like for people
>to
>> >> know.  It doesn't mean that I don't become frustrated at times.  I just
>> >> recognize that questions that I've heard before are either from new
>> >> participants on a list or in a course, or are from people who are now
>ready
>> >> to process the information that they may have heard at a time when they
>> >> weren't ready to process it.   If information is important, it bears
>> >> repeating.  I also, however, feel that it is really important for lists
>or
>> >> specific members of lists to write information or position papers that
>can
>> >> be
>> >> posted on a website.  I've done this in the "Feed Your Mind" section of
>my
>> >> New Visions website (www.new-vis.com)  for many of the issues in
>pediatric
>> >> dysphagia that I feel are important.
>> >>
>> >> Irene, it would be so wonderful if you would consider adding this type
>of a
>> >> section to your own website.  You are such a marvelous resource person
>who
>> >> challenges each of us to understand our assessment and treatment
>choices in
>> >> light of research evidence.  You will know what papers to write and add
>from
>> >> the specific questions you encounter on this list.   Although this
>takes
>> >> some
>> >> time initially, it is a great time and energy saver because you can
>simply
>> >> refer people to the URL that addresses the topic area or question that
>they
>> >> are asking.   For me this also defuses my own frustration at feeling I
>need
>> >> to repeat and repeat the same informational content.  I can then
>approach
>> >> the
>> >> questions as opportunities to share a different perspective with others
>who
>> >> are ready to learn more.
>> >>
>> >> Suzanne
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Suzanne Evans Morris, Ph.D.
>> >> New Visions
>> >> 1124 Roberts Mountain Rd.
>> >> Faber, VA 22938
>> >> (434) 361-2285 ext. 5
>> >> www.new-vis.com
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On May 18, 2005, at 4:00 PM, Irene Campbell-Taylor wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> Genefer Behamdouni <BEHAMG@stjoe.on.ca> wrote:
>> >>> You know if you won't stand for people being rude to you, I'm not sure
>> >>> why you feel the need to be so rude to others. The information is
>> >>> interesting, but you won't solve anything by putting people down
>first.
>> >>>
>> >>> Grow up.
>> >>>
>> >>> *** One of the reasons that I frequently stay away from this list -
>over
>> >>> the ten years in which I have been a contributor - is responses like
>this.
>> >>> My comment was a repeat of what Barbara Sonies said in her talk at
>ASHA in
>> >>> Chicago - outdated, incorrect information etc.  Should she "Grow up"
>as
>> >>> well? And Michael Crary? Do the published facts mean nothing? And
>what,
>> >>> exactly, was rude? I am on record as indicating that every insulting
>> >>> message I receive on this list - and over the years there have been
>> >>> hundreds- will be posted to the membership. If one doesn't have the
>courage
>> >>> to say something publicly, please keep quiet and know that these
>> >>> communications have no effect on me whatsoever.
>> >>>
>> >>>>>> Irene Campbell-Taylor 05/18 9:44 AM >>>
>> >>> Okay, I can't stand it any longer. The wealth of outdated, inaccurate
>> >>> and misperceived information that still seems to be prevalent is
>> >>> frightening. For those of you who feel that you don't have time to
>read
>> >>> the relevant material and, by implication, feel that you don't need
>the
>> >>> information, stop here.
>> >>> Tongue retraction. This is still one of my "Where did you ever get
>that
>> >>> idea? mysteries. Many years ago, David Curtis proved that the "open
>> >>> swallow" is far more common than contact with the PPW. See below.
>> >>> The Masako: If you don't believe me, maybe you'll believe Michael
>Crary
>> >>> - also below.And, in the original article find the following:
>> >>>
>> >>> However, the use of the maneuver per se, which inhibits posterior
>> >>> retraction of the base of tongue (BOT), resulted in increasing the
>> >>> pharyngeal (specifically vallecular) residue after the swallow.
>> >>
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Paula Leslie
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