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[Dysphagia] Silent aspiration
- Subject: [Dysphagia] Silent aspiration
- From: Paula.Leslie at newcastle.ac.uk (Paula leslie)
- Date: Sat Nov 12 11:42:00 2005
I am curious about how exactly CA allows one to detect "silent aspiration"
when, to my knowledge, there is no evidence that shows aspiration (silent or
otherwise) linked to any sound made before, during or after swallowing. We
need videofluoroscopy or laryngoscopy images ie direct visualisation done on
the same swallow not just the same patient at a different time. Anything else
is just presumption of a link. People do talk of wet breath sounds but again
there is no evidence of what exactly this is.
Features such as coughing, wet voice, stridor etc do not need CA to be
detected.
People may have such data from simultaneous swallow studies, ie CA AND VF/LSE
done at the same time. If so it would be very useful to get them into the
public domain to increase the evidence base on this topic.
Paula
>===== Original Message From Kimberley ODonnell
<OdonneK@doh.health.nsw.gov.au> =====
>I agree that cervical auscultation is extremely useful in detecting
>silent aspiration in many but not all people. Wouldn't be without it.
>Kim
>
>Kimberley O'Donnell
>Speech Pathologist - BAppSc MSPAA CPSP
>Royal Rehab. Centre Sydney
>ph:(02) 9808 9210 or (02) 9807 1144 - pager 48
>59 Charles Street RYDE NSW 2112
>
>>> Pat Buen <patbuen@telus.net> 10/11/2005 2:56:15 pm >>>
>As Debbie states, however my last bedside test (b/4 VFSS if needed)
>includes
>cervical auscultation and a good assessment of lung status.
>Pat
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <LCDM11@aol.com>
>To: <tervomm@yahoo.com>; <dysphagia@b9.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 7:38 PM
>Subject: Re: [Dysphagia] Silent aspiration
>
>
>> It's SILENT aspiration. It can't be determined at bedside. You may
>have
>> reason to suspect it, but it CAN NOT be determined by a clinical
>evaluation.
>>
>> Debbie
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