[Dysphagia] conundrum re:estim

[mbuckie at dmc.org (Buckie,Marcia)]

I, too, wonder about that. I know very little about vital stim, and
doubt that the in setting I work in (acute care) that I would find it
that relevant. However, I have colleagues that I have a lot of respect
for that also have had patients with CHRONIC dysphagia with success with
vital stim..(improvement not contributed to spontaneous recovery.)

I certainly am not willing to dismiss this approach all together, I just
wish the company had done their "launch" with a little more clinical
research done first.

Marcia

-----Original Message-----
From: dysphagia-bounces@b9.com [mailto:dysphagia-bounces@b9.com] On
Behalf Of Leslie CRABTREE
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 20:44
To: dysphagia
Subject: Fw: [Dysphagia] conundrum re:estim



So what IS working when people who have been on PEG tube feedings return
to PO with VitalStim when other therapies have failed?  

----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Barbara Sonies<mailto:bsonies@comcast.net> 
  To: hilda pressman<mailto:pressmah@sjhmc.org> ;
lobsterpam@aol.com<mailto:lobsterpam@aol.com> ;
dysphagia@b9.com<mailto:dysphagia@b9.com> 
  Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 9:47 AM
  Subject: Re: [Dysphagia] conundrum re:estim


  Read the Jan issue of Dysphagia -article by Suitor et all on estim
showing
  it did not work. Also read the on line article in Dysphagia by
Humbert,
  Ludlow, sonies et al also showing that it lowers the hyolaryngeal
complex.


  On 7/14/06 11:11 AM, "Pressman, Hilda"
<pressmah@sjhmc.org<mailto:pressmah@sjhmc.org>> wrote:

  >> From what I understand one of the big problems is that it is being
marketed
  >> by the company directly to Directors and vice presidents and the
statement is
  >> being made that it works for most people
  > 
  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: dysphagia-bounces@b9.com<mailto:dysphagia-bounces@b9.com>
[mailto:dysphagia-bounces@b9.com]On
  > Behalf Of lobsterpam@aol.com<mailto:lobsterpam@aol.com>
  > Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 1:26 PM
  > To: dysphagia@b9.com<mailto:dysphagia@b9.com>
  > Subject: Re: [Dysphagia] conundrum re:estim
  > 
  > 
  >     Re: e-stim: [[From a practical point of view, families are now
asking for
  > it and so it just sets up an interesting dynamic. On another note,
the
  > therapists I know who are using it were not aware that there is any
  > controversy regarding it!]]
  >  I can't speak for anyone else, but I find that fact a bit
disconcerting.
  >  
  >  Pam Smith
  >   
  >
________________________________________________________________________
  > Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures,
email and IM.
  > All on demand. Always Free.
  > _______________________________________________
  > Dysphagia mailing list
  > Dysphagia@b9.com<mailto:Dysphagia@b9.com>
  >
http://lists.b9.com/mailman/listinfo/dysphagia<http://lists.b9.com/mailm
an/listinfo/dysphagia>
  > 
  > _______________________________________________
  > Dysphagia mailing list
  > Dysphagia@b9.com<mailto:Dysphagia@b9.com>
  >
http://lists.b9.com/mailman/listinfo/dysphagia<http://lists.b9.com/mailm
an/listinfo/dysphagia>


  _______________________________________________
  Dysphagia mailing list
  Dysphagia@b9.com<mailto:Dysphagia@b9.com>
 
http://lists.b9.com/mailman/listinfo/dysphagia<http://lists.b9.com/mailm
an/listinfo/dysphagia>
_______________________________________________
Dysphagia mailing list
Dysphagia@b9.com
http://lists.b9.com/mailman/listinfo/dysphagia